lyndra":7f4fd said:Phoenix worms are supposed to be easier to digest when you poke a hole in them right before you feed them to your beardie.
cricket119":d8b5e said:Phoenix worms are a good thing!! It is possible they weren't digested properly. That can be from insufficient lighting or the light was turned off too soon after feeding. To the other poster about the vet recommendation to take off phoenix worms as a feeder: Is the vet experienced in reptiles? That doesn't sound right!! Hope all is well. Chris
cricket119":efb7e said:Phoenix worms are a good thing!! It is possible they weren't digested properly. That can be from insufficient lighting or the light was turned off too soon after feeding. To the other poster about the vet recommendation to take off phoenix worms as a feeder: Is the vet experienced in reptiles? That doesn't sound right!! Hope all is well. Chris
Dr. Phoenix":11853 said:Hi Folks,
Our email service has been down all morning and we can barely use the Internet right now but we saw this thread and wanted to reply to Chad and others who are concerned about this issue. Of the many thousands of animals who have been fed Phoenix Worms, we occasionally hear about finding worms in the feces. Usually this occurs when PWs are first introduced and the beardie is particularly excited and sort of gobbles down mouthfuls of worms without chewing--easier to do with PWs because they're smaller than other worms. A simple solution is to serve only a small number of worms at a time to slow down the feeding. Another solution is "pinning" which is what frog hobbyists do to feed live prey because frogs typically do not chew--hobbyists pierce the worm with a needle before serving which ensures that the digestive juices can do their job. Breeders tell us that they consider this to be an occasional occurrence but not a problem. They liken it to humans who sometimes find kernels of corn in the toilet bowl which does not mean that corn is a bad food.
We are concerned that a vet advised to stop feeding PWs to a dragon who needs a boost in nutrition. Unlike other feeders, the calcium and phosphorus are perfectly balanced in these worms and PWs contain natural lauric acid which has strong antimicrobial properties and combats coccidia. These worms also trigger a feeding response in animals who are off feed. We have received many email reports telling us about how PWs saved the life of a dying pet or healed MBD. It's clear that animals are obtaining additional nutrition from PWs since their health often improves. We hope that fear about the occasional passage of a whole worm will not prevent you from allowing your pet to enjoy the nutritional benefits of Phoenix Worms.
Craig Sheppard, Ph.D.
President, Insect Science Resource
Professor Emeritus, UGA
http://www.phoenixworm.com
dragonphoenix36":11853 said:But yes, if we don't hand feed her one at a time..she eats them too fast and acts like she's going to regurgitate, or we find small pieces in her poo...but not whole ones.
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